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Dave brings up the reintroduction of wolves near Dollywood in Tennessee, prompting Joe to clarify that these are likely endangered red wolves, which are significantly smaller (50-60 lbs) than the much larger and more terrifying grey wolves.
Joe further elaborates on how animal size correlates with climate, explaining that moose, being the largest deer species, thrive in the far north due to their size helping retain heat. He also notes that elk found in northern states like Montana and Wyoming are significantly larger for the same reason.
Joe Rogan argues that if people want to be vegetarian or vegan, they should eat organic vegetables, not highly processed 'fake meat' products. He uses a controversial analogy comparing fake burgers to 'trans burgers' due to the extensive processing required, and shares a story about Beyond Burgers being the only option during the pandemic.
Joe explains the challenges and specific requirements for bow hunting large animals like moose, highlighting the need for a powerful bow, precise shots to avoid thick bones, and the right type of broadhead for penetration, contrasting it with the relative ease of gun hunting.
Joe Rogan discusses the paradox of impoverished individuals suffering from obesity, attributing it to poor nutrition. He then shifts to a humorous and critical observation about the prevalence of very large people and mobility carts at Disneyland, questioning their enjoyment of rides and the safety implications.
Joe Rogan advocates for a fair balance in labor, suggesting that workers should make good money and share in the profits of a successful corporation, emphasizing that a profitable business should benefit its employees.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss resources like books and a mob museum exhibit for learning more about Detroit's Purple Gang, highlighting their ruthless nature and the harsh lives of its members, many of whom were abandoned Irish or Jewish kids.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss how the automakers' union, despite advocating for workers, became "out of control" with high demands, ultimately contributing to companies moving production to Mexico and impacting the American auto industry.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the practical challenges of electric vehicles, specifically mentioning the electric F-150 catching fire in hot climates and poor battery performance in the cold, with Landau expressing a personal preference for traditional engines.
Joe and Dave discuss how the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel is considered the dog breed most physically and characteristically removed from its wolf ancestors. Joe shares his personal experience with his small, calm Cavapoo, highlighting its gentle nature.
Joe and Dave discuss the feasibility and challenges of raising wild animals like foxes and coyotes as pets. They explain that while it's possible if the animals are abandoned young and constantly given attention and food, their wild instincts remain, requiring continuous effort to manage.
Joe Rogan critically questions the practice of reintroducing animals, particularly large predators like grizzly bears and wolves, into areas where they were previously made extinct. He points out that these animals were removed for specific reasons, often involving conflict with human populations, and highlights the ongoing issues with wolf reintroduction in Colorado.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the ironic turn of events for "White Boy Rick," who, after decades in prison, has now released his own marijuana strain in newly legal Detroit, drawing parallels to Freeway Ricky Ross and highlighting the federal risks of the legal cannabis industry.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau humorously speculate about "weed store wars" due to the rapid proliferation of cannabis dispensaries in legal states, highlighting the surprising density of these businesses in places like Albuquerque.
Joe and Dave recount multiple examples of how attempts to solve ecological problems by introducing new species have backfired catastrophically. They discuss ladybugs creating a biting beetle problem in Michigan, zebra mussels destroying boats and injuring swimmers, and sterilized carp overeating vegetation, ruining lake ecosystems and bass fishing habitats.
Dave shares a personal story about rescuing and taming a feral kitten that was initially wild and aggressive towards everyone. He describes the challenging but rewarding process of building a unique bond with the cat, which became incredibly affectionate with him but remained fiercely hostile towards anyone else who tried to approach it.
Dave Landau expresses his desire to see a movie about Detroit's mob history, humorously describing the local mobsters he knew as "nice people" who were kind to his father, with Joe Rogan adding the caveat, "nice people that kill people."
Joe Rogan argues that prohibition only serves to prop up organized crime and that drugs are already pervasive in society, making the case that legalizing and regulating them would be a more effective approach than current "optics-driven" policies.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the incredible history of Detroit, once the third richest city in the world and known as the "Paris of the Midwest," contrasting its past glory with its current state of abandoned buildings and sparse population.
Dave Landau describes the intense youth culture of Detroit's suburbs, which bordered violent areas and involved attending raves in Russian mob-owned warehouses. He shares how former mayor Kwame Kilpatrick later capitalized on this with the Detroit Electronic Music Festival, and humorously recalls the Ford Focus "Ecstasy Car" – a vehicle designed with an extreme sound system specifically for ravers.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the potential dangers and ethical dilemmas of advanced AI, referencing a movie about sex bots used for murder and questioning the implications of giving AI personalities.
Dave Landau shares the unique challenges of being a road comic in 2009 while wearing an alcohol ankle monitor. He explains having to ask bars for a phone jack to plug in his device for data downloads, creating awkward and humorous situations.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the root causes of suicidal thoughts, emphasizing the critical role of community, friendship, and identity in preventing individuals from reaching a point of despair, suggesting simple actions like "going for a walk."
Dave Landau and Joe Rogan discuss how corporations moving jobs overseas devastated Detroit, using it as a prime example of the negative consequences of prioritizing financial decisions over local economies and the American Dream.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau criticize Texas's highly restrictive medical marijuana laws, which initially only allowed use for severely ill patients, and advocate for the federal government to deschedule cannabis from its Schedule I classification to a more reasonable Schedule III.
Joe Rogan describes the astonishing strength of baseball player Mark Maguire during the steroid era, referencing a video where Maguire's wooden bat visibly bends upon contacting the ball due to the immense force of his swing. This serves as a powerful illustration of the physical enhancements from steroids.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau debate the ongoing controversy surrounding Pete Rose's exclusion from the Baseball Hall of Fame due to his gambling. They argue that his betting, even if against his own team, shouldn't overshadow his incredible achievements as one of the greatest players of all time.
Dave Landau shares his personal experience of being on SSRIs for 10 years, detailing how the medication had negative effects, made him feel worse, and his current process of slowly weaning off them after a cold turkey attempt led to brain misfiring.
Dave Landau explains how finding an outlet in comedy transformed his life, allowing him to channel his anger, depression, and resentment towards 'the system' into writing sketches and performing. He describes the cathartic feeling of ripping on those who had wronged him, showcasing the power of creative expression as a coping mechanism and a path to self-discovery.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau explore the paradoxical effect of heroin on a professional pool player, suggesting it acted as a "performance-enhancing drug" by eliminating nerves during a high-stakes $10,000 game, especially for someone who was homeless and desperate for money.
Joe Rogan humorously recounts the additional risks he would have faced if he had agreed to buy heroin for his friend in South Central LA during his "NewsRadio" days, noting his relative anonymity at the time compared to his current fame, and how that period prepared him for celebrity.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau humorously reflect on the "lax" penalties and less public nature of celebrity drug arrests in the past, referencing Robert Downey Jr.'s infamous incident of falling asleep in a neighbor's kid's race car bed.
Dave Landau reflects on his youth, realizing that the illicit drugs he used to self-medicate for depression in high school—such as mushrooms and ketamine—are now being researched and used to treat depression. He humorously notes his 'accuracy' in his 'studies' of how these drugs would help him, even recalling 'K-holes' and melting teacher faces during class.
Joe Rogan criticizes the vegan diet, arguing that while seemingly kind, it supports monocrop agriculture which paradoxically kills more animals than other farming methods. He expresses a preference for his superheroes not to be vegan.
Joe Rogan critiques the historical food pyramid, explaining how its foundation of inflammation-causing foods like white bread and sugar contributed to widespread, undiagnosed type 2 diabetes in previous generations, despite access to nutritional information.
Joe and Dave share personal anecdotes about serious skiing accidents, including concussions, shin fractures, and the host's friend's grandpa dying from a skiing incident. They conclude that the thrill is often not worth the significant risks and injuries associated with the sport.
Joe Rogan expresses frustration with America's 'scammer mentality' regarding lawsuits. He recounts a story where a single mother sued a wealthy family for $50,000 after their friendly dog accidentally scraped her with its claws, highlighting the perceived opportunism and the financial burden of legal fees.
Dave Landau shares the deeply personal story of his mother's suicide and how she was misdiagnosed with depression instead of bipolar disorder, highlighting the challenges of living with a parent with severe mood swings and the impact on his own mental health journey.
Joe Rogan enthusiastically describes his custom Tesla Model S Plaid, highlighting its incredible speed and advanced features, modified by Unplug Performance.
Joe Rogan discusses the inherent difficulty of 'training' wolves, explaining that they constantly challenge for dominance. He shares an anecdote about a wolf trainer who must physically assert dominance over his wolves daily. He also recounts a story of wolf-dogs killing a neighbor's sheep for 'fun,' highlighting their untamed instincts.
Joe Rogan reveals that New Jersey, surprisingly, has a significant bear problem, leading to human-bear conflicts. He recounts how the governor, after initially stopping bear hunts, was forced to reinstate them due to a booming bear population and increased dangerous interactions, illustrating the crucial role of hunting in wildlife control.
Joe Rogan reveals that central California faces a massive problem with wild boars, originating from William Randolph Hearst's estate. These aggressive pigs destroy property, show up on lawns, and have even killed people, including an old lady, highlighting the unexpected dangers of escaped wildlife.
Joe Rogan passionately argues for the necessity of hunting to control wildlife populations, specifically bears and deer. He criticizes the 'liberal' mindset that opposes predator control, emphasizing that unchecked populations lead to increased car accidents and wasted food resources, as deer are 'delicious' and abundant.
Joe Rogan warns about the extreme danger of moose, stating they are far more dangerous than elk because they actively 'stomp you' and will aggressively go after people. He cautions against underestimating them, reminding listeners they are not 'Bullwinkle' but wild, deadly animals.
Joe Rogan provides critical advice for bow hunters facing large, charging animals: avoid the highly risky 'frontal shot.' He explains the tiny target area, the hunter's adrenaline-induced shaking, and the high likelihood of missing, strongly recommending retreating or seeking cover instead of attempting such a dangerous shot.
Joe and Dave discuss the characteristics of moose, including their poor eyesight and lack of intelligence, contrasting them with elk. They delve into the highly effective but tricky 'frontal shot' in bow hunting, describing a specific video example and the precise target area.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the controversial theory that President Lyndon B. Johnson had financial interests in helicopters, which allegedly influenced the decision to go to war in Vietnam, questioning the true motives behind the conflict.
Joe Rogan explains the engineering behind his modified Tesla, detailing carbon fiber upgrades, race suspension, and how the battery placement creates a phenomenally low center of gravity, making it one of the best-balanced cars to drive despite its weight.
The discussion acknowledges that while the "Grizzly Man" was misguided, he captured incredible, unique footage of bears due to his immersive living situation. It then transitions to the adorable and dog-like nature of foxes, noting his friendship with one, and how they can be raised as pets.
Joe and Dave marvel at the "insane" story of how humans transformed wolves into the diverse range of domestic dog breeds over centuries, highlighting the extreme example of a King Charles Spaniel being genetically linked to a wolf.
Dave Landau recounts his past as a drug addict working in a pharmacy in the 90s, where lax controls allowed him to easily access pills, connecting this to the broader context of global drug manufacturing in places like the Golden Triangle.
Dave shares a striking story about "dog gangs" in abandoned Detroit houses, where a black lab once led a pack of pit bulls. This leads to a discussion about the very real danger of feral dogs, including a tragic account of a woman killed by a pack while hiking in Georgia, emphasizing the severe threat they pose.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau share incredible anecdotes of extreme measures taken to cheat drug tests. One story involves a fighter injecting someone else's urine directly into his bladder to pass a steroid test, while another recalls a basketball player testing positive for pregnancy after using his girlfriend's urine.
Dave Landau begins the story of his first arrest, which happened on the day he got his driver's license. He describes borrowing his dad's new Buick, immediately driving through his aunt's lawn, buying beer from a local eccentric, and engaging in "lawn jobs" – doing donuts on people's lawns and setting leaf piles on fire.
Dave Landau recounts the fascinating and brutal history of Detroit's Purple Gang, a Jewish and Irish bootlegging mafia during Prohibition, so ruthless that even Al Capone feared them. He describes their methods, including driving Model T's laden with alcohol across frozen rivers to Canada, and their extreme acts of cruelty.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau recount stories of people buying houses for $500 in Detroit, including a humorous anecdote about urban farmers facing unexpected challenges in crack neighborhoods, highlighting the city's unique and often absurd realities.
Joe Rogan describes an exhilarating experience in his Tesla, demonstrating its rapid 0-60 acceleration in 1.9 seconds and showcasing its advanced self-driving features, including autonomous lane changes and stopping at red lights.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau share a hilarious story about a prankster who fooled a Tesla's self-driving camera by painting a mural of a highway tunnel in the desert, causing the car to "drive" right through it, reminiscent of a Looney Tunes cartoon.
Dave Landau and Joe Rogan discuss the controversial topic of AI chatbots developing relationships with kids, citing an instance where an AI taught a child to make a noose, leading into a dark humorous and controversial discussion about "woke AI" and the recent trend of trans school shooters.
Joe Rogan discusses the controversial and often-ignored connection between mass shootings and psychiatric drugs, suggesting that media and pharmaceutical companies suppress this "dirty secret" despite many perpetrators being on such medications.
Dave Landau and Joe Rogan detail the severe and debilitating symptoms of SSRI withdrawal, including "brain zaps," stuttering, vision problems, nausea, flu-like symptoms, and cognitive issues, highlighting the challenges of discontinuing long-term medication.
Dave Landau shares the harrowing story of his father, a Vietnam veteran, who suffered from soft-cell sarcoma due to Agent Orange exposure. He details the VA's repeated denial of claims, the financial ruin it caused his family, and his father's incredible resilience despite a halo drilled into his head.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the controversial theory that the true motive for US involvement in Afghanistan was related to heroin, alleging that the US military was guarding poppy fields that supplied 94% of the world's heroin.
Dave Landau recounts the astonishing true story of "White Boy Rick," an FBI informant caught in a web of corruption involving the Detroit mayor and the FBI, leading to his unjust 30-year imprisonment starting at age 17, and further legal troubles even while incarcerated.
Joe Rogan explains the devastating chain of events leading to the fentanyl crisis: the Sackler brothers created the opioid crisis, then law enforcement cracked down, creating a demand met by cartels who added fentanyl to weak heroin and counterfeit pills, resulting in widespread deaths.
Joe Rogan discusses the banning of lab-grown meat and shares his strong negative experience with Beyond Burgers, calling them 'awful' and 'terrible.' He claims they are highly processed and have been linked to causing cancer in rats, highlighting the industry's failed promises.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the deadly nature of fentanyl, especially when pressed into counterfeit pills like Xanax or Percocet, leading to tragic and unexpected overdoses. They highlight the alarming statistic that someone overdoses on fentanyl every 11 seconds in the US.
Dave Landau candidly describes his past experiences with heroin, including snorting, smoking black tar, and shooting it, detailing the "majestic," calming, and euphoric sensation that made every problem disappear, while acknowledging the dangers.
Dave Landau shares a hilarious anecdote about accidentally smoking crack when a friend secretly put it in a joint, describing the intense, short-lived high and his immediate desire for more. Joe Rogan then jokes about Hunter Biden's interview being the "best ad for crack."
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the serious commitment involved in injecting heroin, with Landau sharing the tragic story of his friend, who helped him shoot up in high school, ultimately dying of a heroin overdose in his parents' kitchen.
Joe Rogan recounts the incredible story of "Water Dog," a professional pool player and heroin addict who, after shooting up, would play with unparalleled precision and zero nerves, making him an unbeatable force at the table, even under immense pressure.
Joe Rogan recounts a tense encounter with his old friend "Water Dog," a heroin addict, who asked him for a ride to South Central LA to buy drugs before a pool tournament. Rogan firmly refused, highlighting the risks of getting caught and losing his car, demonstrating the tough boundaries necessary when dealing with addiction.
Joe Rogan discusses the common misconception that pit bulls are inherently bad, explaining that while they are generally fine with adults, their instinct can lead them to perceive children as other animals, making them dangerous. He emphasizes the immense responsibility required to own powerful breeds like German Shepherds or game-bred pit bulls, which are 'designed to fight dogs.'
Joe Rogan and guest discuss the chaotic nature of dog parks, including unconventional methods to break up dog fights (like shoving a finger in a dog's ass or using a hose) and the surprising fact that fighting dogs wag their tails. Joe also shares a wild story about a wolf (or wolf-dog) entering a dog park, causing all the other dogs to scatter in instinctive fear.
Joe explains the stark difference in aggression between elk and moose, emphasizing that moose, especially mothers with calves, are highly dangerous and will actively chase and stomp humans. He shares a terrifying personal anecdote of a friend being chased on horseback by a cow moose.
Joe and Dave discuss the film "Grizzly Man," controversially suggesting that Werner Herzog intended it as a dark comedy, given the protagonist's naive approach to dangerous bears. They highlight the horrific reality of bear attacks, where bears don't kill before eating, contrasting it with the main character's misguided belief that bears aren't dangerous.
Joe Rogan shares his strong, controversial opinion against neutering dogs, arguing that removing their testosterone leads to depression and lack of energy, much like in humans. He challenges the common "spay or neuter your pets" advice, suggesting that responsible dog ownership is a better solution than altering their natural hormones.
Joe provides practical advice on how to safely interact with an unknown dog. He advises against common practices like putting out your hand, and strongly warns against running or screaming. Instead, he suggests standing your ground, maintaining eye contact, allowing the dog to smell you, and not showing fear.
Joe details the problematic consequences of wolf reintroduction in Colorado, where wolves are killing cattle, forcing ranchers to incur extra costs for patrols, and leading the state to compensate for depredation. He criticizes this as "ballot box biology," highlighting the irony of spending millions to reintroduce wolves only to then issue permits to kill them.
Joe Rogan vehemently criticizes "ballot box biology," where well-intentioned but uninformed liberal individuals and politicians make wildlife management decisions without understanding the practical, often negative, consequences for ecosystems and human livelihoods, particularly ranchers. He argues that experienced hunters and conservationists who actually spend time in the wild strongly oppose these misguided reintroduction efforts.
Joe and Dave discuss the devastating ecological impact of feral cats, citing Australia as an example where they've wiped out ground-nesting birds. They then delve into the lesser-known danger of toxoplasmosis, a parasite carried by cats, which can affect human behavior, making individuals more impulsive and aggressive, noting its historical prevalence in France.
Dave shares hilarious and bizarre stories about his eccentric grandma who lived in an old mansion. He describes her protecting spiders, including dangerous brown recluses and black widows, as part of the ecosystem, and running a full-blown casino in her basement where he and his cousins played blackjack as kids. He also reveals she was a recovering alcoholic who still kept a full bar.
Dave continues his first arrest story, detailing how doing donuts on a stranger's lawn escalated into a high-speed chase with the car owner. The chase ends abruptly when he crashes his dad's Buick into an oak tree, getting knocked unconscious by the airbag. He awakens to find his friends and cousin have fled, leaving him alone amidst the wreckage and scattered party supplies from a family reunion.
Concluding his first arrest story, Dave describes the aftermath of his car crash: waking up to his furious dad, who promptly punches him, knocking him out for a second time that night. The police officer's sarcastic offer to let his dad hit him again adds to the dark humor. Dave details receiving his first DUI, a suspended license, and his dad presenting him with the nearly $14,000 repair bill as a harsh lesson.
Dave Landau recounts the challenging and dangerous experience of having an alcohol tether and car breathalyzer as part of his sobriety journey, including a harrowing moment where he had to blow into the device while driving and avoiding a jackknifing truck in the snow.
A surprising fact is revealed: eating poppy seed bagels can lead to a positive result for heroin on a drug test, despite having no other drugs in your system. This highlights the sensitivity and potential pitfalls of drug screening.
Dave Landau humorously recounts his attempt to pass a drug test using a fake penis, a 'Wizator', and how he was caught because the device was a different skin tone than his own, leading to an embarrassing discovery.
Joe recounts a shocking historical anecdote about a World War I ceasefire between German and Russian forces, who temporarily united to combat wolves preying on soldiers. He then explains Bergmann's Rule in biology: animals in colder, northern climates tend to be larger to retain heat, illustrating this with examples of deer, wolves, and bears.
Joe Rogan expresses a controversial opinion, stating that if he were running a professional basketball organization, he would want his players on steroids. He argues that he's not testing anyone for anything, and simply wants them playing better and recovering faster.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau delve into rarely discussed conspiracy theories surrounding the murders of Michael Jordan's and Bill Cosby's sons. They suggest that both incidents might not have been random, with Jordan's father possibly killed over gambling debts and Cosby's son potentially targeted due to his father's actions.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau uncover the scientific truth about 'Spanish Fly', revealing that it is not an aphrodisiac but a toxic substance called cantharidin, derived from blister beetles. It causes severe harm and can be fatal, with any 'arousal' being a dangerous side effect of urinary tract burning, not sexual desire.
Dave Landau explains the origin of the opioid crisis through Florida's 'pill mills'. He details how pain management centers, lacking a central database, were co-located with doctors who exclusively prescribed pain pills, allowing individuals to 'doctor shop' and accumulate massive quantities of drugs, leading to widespread addiction and overdose deaths via the 'Oxycontin Express'.
Dave Landau shares a personal and cautionary tale of how he became addicted to Vicodin after a knee injury, even while taking a prescribed amount for several months. He vividly describes the severe withdrawal symptoms, including shaking and throwing up, highlighting the potent and dangerous nature of prescription opioids.
Dave Landau recounts a bizarre and terrifying experience during his two-week institutionalization in a mental health facility. He describes having a roommate who genuinely believed he was a werewolf, leading to a violent attack that required guards to intervene with a sedative known as 'booty juice.' Joe Rogan then adds a shocking detail about children being injected with such sedatives without parental consent.
Dave Landau shares a pivotal moment from his youth: a teacher who, despite his disruptive behavior, recognized his genuine humor and recommended he take classes at Second City. Years later, he had the full-circle experience of performing improv on stage with that very same teacher, validating her early belief in his talent.
Joe Rogan and Dave Landau discuss the shocking revelations about Bill Cosby, including the claim that he might be the most prolific serial rapist in history. They highlight the disturbing contrast with his wholesome 'Dr. Huxtable' image, pointing out unsettling details like Huxtable being a gynecologist with an office in his basement, Cosby's stand-up bits about 'Spanish Fly', and the chilling 'Cosby Mysteries' intro featuring a pill in a martini.