Joe Rogan Experience #2432 - Josh Dubin

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Joe Rogan Experience #2432 - Josh Dubin

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December 29, 2025
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Weed, Paranoia, and Adult Responsibilities

Joe Rogan discusses how marijuana-induced paranoia can sometimes lead to self-revelation, and how his experience with weed changed from fostering creativity in youth to becoming problematic with adult responsibilities like parenting. He emphasizes the importance of self-awareness in deciding if it's right for you.

Marijuana knowledge
1:55:15
Duration: 2:00

Malcolm Gladwell on Opioid Executives Refusing to Apologize

Josh Dubin references Malcolm Gladwell's new book, 'Revenge of the Tipping Point,' highlighting how pharmaceutical executives testifying before Congress about the opioid crisis strategically avoided admitting fault, instead using euphemisms like 'associated with addiction.'

Corporate responsibility knowledge
1:52
Duration: 0:45

Ayahuasca's Chemistry: DMT, MAO Inhibitors, and Your Body's Natural Psychedelics

Joe Rogan provides a detailed scientific explanation of Ayahuasca, revealing it as orally active dimethyltryptamine (DMT) combined with a monoamine oxidase (MAO) inhibitor. He explains that DMT is an endogenous drug naturally produced by the human body (in the liver, lungs, and brain) and how the MAO inhibitor in Ayahuasca allows this natural psychedelic to become orally active, bypassing the body's usual breakdown process.

Ayahuasca knowledge
2:31:50
Duration: 1:29

The Truth About Planned Obsolescence: Light Bulbs

The co-host provides a concrete example of planned obsolescence: light bulbs. He explains how original light bulbs, like the 'Centennial Light' from 1901, were built with durable filaments to last for decades, but manufacturers later made them with thinner filaments to burn out faster and drive repeat sales.

Manufacturing knowledge
2:01:52
Duration: 1:25

The Heavy Cross of Empathy for a Lawyer

Josh Dubin, a civil rights attorney, describes how his sensitive and empathetic nature, though seemingly odd for a lawyer, allows him to do his work. He explains the emotional burden of 'wearing other people's hurt and emotions' and the immense difficulty of achieving legal victories like exonerations, calling each one 'its own miracle'.

Legal Profession knowledge
1:33:38
Duration: 2:17

The Ayahuasca Experience: Purging, Healing, and Connection

Joe Rogan describes the profound and often challenging Ayahuasca experience. He explains that while the body reacts with purging (vomiting) because it perceives the brew as 'not good,' the ultimate outcome is an 'extremely impactful experience.' This can lead to quitting destructive behaviors like alcohol and cigarettes, releasing trauma, and fostering a deep connection to nature and wise entities.

Ayahuasca knowledge
2:33:22
Duration: 1:17

The Inability to Admit Fault in the Justice System

Josh Dubin explains how the inability to admit fault transcends the legal system, suggesting that many wrongful convictions stem from well-intentioned but flawed hunches by law enforcement rather than outright corruption.

Human psychology knowledge
2:37
Duration: 0:20

The Pearl Mutters DNA Theft Case: An Introduction to Forensic Bias

Josh Dubin introduces the shocking Pearl Mutters DNA theft case, explaining how the center he works for was named after it. He recounts a pivotal moment in court where an expert admitted an email from their lab showed bias in DNA results, questioning the impartiality of forensic science.

Legal cases story
5:59
Duration: 1:38

The Strength in Saying 'I'm Sorry'

Joe Rogan and Josh Dubin discuss the profound strength found in simply admitting when you're wrong and apologizing, highlighting it as a powerful act of personal integrity.

Personal growth motivation
5:02
Duration: 0:19

How DNA Contamination Led to False Accusations

Josh Dubin explains the critical lab error in the Pearl Mutters case where an analyst accidentally mixed Lori Pearl Mutter's DNA into a positive control, leading to a contaminated sample. This false result was then prematurely relied upon by an unaccredited lab, illustrating how easily DNA evidence can be compromised.

Forensic science knowledge
19:11
Duration: 2:44

The Shocking Truth: Innocent People Plead Guilty

Josh Dubin reveals a disturbing reality of the justice system where innocent individuals, after decades in prison, plead guilty just to be released, highlighting the immense pressure and the broken system that allows this.

Criminal Justice System knowledge
49:00
Duration: 0:45

51 Years of Contribution: Immigrant Faces Deportation

Josh Dubin highlights the injustice faced by an Albanian immigrant who, after building a life, family, and career in the U.S. for 51 years as a green card holder, is now facing deportation due to an old conviction after a trip abroad.

Immigration story
54:00
Duration: 1:03

Self-Defense or Injustice? 25 Years for a Leg Shot

Josh Dubin recounts how Michael Giles, after being violently attacked, shot his assailant in the leg in self-defense, only to receive a mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years in prison, highlighting the severity of Florida's justice system.

Criminal Justice story
1:22:29
Duration: 0:35

The 1930s Hemp Conspiracy: Hearst, Decorticators, and Profit

Josh Dubin reveals the 'vast conspiracy' behind marijuana's illegalization in the 1930s. He explains how William Randolph Hearst, owner of paper mills, saw hemp as a threat to his industry after the invention of the decorticator made hemp processing easy and efficient, leading him to demonize the plant.

Drug Policy knowledge
1:44:30
Duration: 2:36

Joe Rogan's Casino Paranoia Trip

Joe Rogan recounts a vivid personal story from 15 years ago at the Aria casino where, after taking a few hits of weed, he became intensely paranoid, convinced a guy was an undercover officer and a woman was stealing his chips, leading him to hide in a corner for two hours.

Marijuana story
1:51:04
Duration: 0:54

Larry Hoover: A 75-Year-Old's Decades-Long Injustice

Josh Dubin shares the compelling story of Larry Hoover, a 75-year-old man who had his federal sentence for a drug conspiracy commuted by President Trump after over 50 years in prison, but remains incarcerated due to old state charges. Dubin questions the utility and morality of keeping a rehabilitated, elderly man locked up, especially when the person who pulled the trigger in an associated homicide is already free.

Criminal Justice Reform story
2:06:32
Duration: 1:58

Legalizing Drugs: The Cartel Solution and Political Suicide

The hosts delve into the controversial idea of legalizing drugs like cocaine to dismantle cartels and reduce overdose deaths from adulterated substances. They discuss the overwhelming statistical support from countries that have decriminalized drugs, while acknowledging the immense political and societal challenges of implementing such a policy in the U.S. due to its high consumption rates and the existing social stigma.

Drug Policy controversy
2:14:27
Duration: 2:12

EMDR Therapy: A Painful Yet Life-Saving Path to Healing Trauma

Josh Dubin shares his deeply personal and agonizing experience with EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) therapy, describing it as one of the most painful yet 'religious' experiences of his life. He explains how reliving childhood traumas with rhythmic buzzing led to significant improvements in his mood and ability to deal with past issues, ultimately 'saving him.' He emphasizes that he learned more about himself through EMDR than any drug or psychedelic.

Mental Health story
2:36:06
Duration: 2:56

The $50 Million Verdict and the Integrity of Forensic Science

Josh Dubin discusses the $50 million verdict won in the Pearl Mutters case, highlighting its significance beyond restoring the couple's name. He emphasizes how the case underscores the vulnerability of even reliable forensic science like DNA when mishandled by private citizens or influenced by bias, stressing the importance of objective scientific processes.

Legal victory knowledge
15:29
Duration: 0:48

The Smoking Gun: A Murderer Caught, Yet Another Framed

Josh Dubin begins the shocking narrative of Nelson Cruz's wrongful conviction, describing how police literally caught the actual murderer, Eduardo Rodriguez, with the 'smoking gun' immediately after a shooting, setting the stage for a profound injustice.

Wrongful conviction story
32:44
Duration: 1:36

A Judge with Alzheimer's: The Tragic Twist in Nelson Cruz's Case

Josh Dubin reveals further astonishing details in Nelson Cruz's wrongful conviction case: a key witness was exposed as a liar, and the judge presiding over Cruz's post-conviction hearing made erratic decisions and later resigned due to advanced Alzheimer's disease.

Wrongful conviction story
39:47
Duration: 1:26

The True Killer Goes Free: A Common Outcome in Exoneration Cases

Joe Rogan questions the injustice of actual murderers going free after someone else is exonerated for their crime. Josh Dubin explains that it's "very rare" for law enforcement to pursue the true killer after an exoneration, citing legal, logistical, and civil liability reasons.

Justice system flaws controversy
44:16
Duration: 1:29

The Corrupt Detective Lewis Garcella: Framing Nelson Cruz

Josh Dubin exposes the role of notoriously corrupt detective Lewis Garcella, responsible for 21 vacated convictions, who framed 17-year-old Nelson Cruz for murder. Despite the actual killer being caught with the 'smoking gun,' Garcella orchestrated a false narrative to implicate Cruz.

Wrongful conviction story
34:56
Duration: 2:07

The Elaborate DNA Theft: A Vigilante Justice Scheme

Josh Dubin details the bizarre and elaborate plot by a neighbor to steal Ike and Lori Pearl Mutter's DNA during a deposition over a petty tennis dispute. The scheme involved a former crime scene analyst and a retired police chief, highlighting a shocking act of 'vigilante justice' and forensic manipulation.

Crime story
7:49
Duration: 1:57

Leaked Memo: Florida Prosecutor's Racist Policy for Hispanics

Josh Dubin exposes a shocking memo from Florida prosecutor Jack Campbell's office, revealed by a whistleblower, that explicitly targeted Hispanic residents for harsher punishment, leading to a DOJ investigation and raising serious questions about racial bias in the justice system.

Racial Bias controversy
1:28:31
Duration: 1:56

DeSantis's Sudden Clemency Reversal: 'Brutal' and 'Evil'

Josh Dubin recounts the shocking moment Governor DeSantis, without articulated reason, reversed his decision to grant clemency to Michael Giles at the last second, calling the act 'brutal' and 'evil' and questioning his humanity.

Political Decisions controversy
1:27:11
Duration: 0:29